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ble and counter-plan about healthare, other countries ve joined in. some say that the system does not wo in france, oers say it is no - is the best in the wo. someeople think it ds work in england, some think it does t. i liv in england, and at that time, it was wking qte well. doctors work r theovernment. in france, the doctors are private,ut it is an entirel different system. you have hospitals. if you are in aar accidt, much of the emeency room comes you. in gmany is a mixture oftate and the emploe, and in switzerland, it isandated that everne has insurance, but it is mostly prite. anywayit has been so divisive thatverybody has been looking
for crits of everyonelse's syem just to show them that is not the wayo go. it remains to be seen that the archconservative iin britain's current political structure,he leaders of th tory party, david camen, has come out with an enormous endorsent of the state health system, which she scribed as a ftastic and freshness -- preous fact of british life. his son dd at the age of 6 om palsy and epilepsy d w nursed throughouty the nation health service in england, and he and his wife were allowed to ke alternative nights sleeping wh their little b as he stggled for life. a vaable wonderful and movg speech, camer came forward and defend it as something uque,
nerous, wonderfulnd compassione the national health service in engla. if anyon will dismantle it, presumably it will be the ty party and s leade, david can run -- cameron, tips to win the next election. remember, it willot be changed. maybe it can more effient. th british, althe way out to the leadership of th coervatives, like their hlth care stem. i have done some rsonal research o thisnd i find the system popular in france, belgium. only the italians criticize i but th criticize evething
i have of the 18th calmed jitters -- commentors here --, the a-team of commentator when we come back. >> "white house chronicle" is produced in collaborati with ut, howard university television. d now, your host, llewellyn king, d co-host linda gaspello. >> hlo, again. i'm pud to be joined with this team, as i have desibed them. brian carey, edor of "u.s. news and world report," the
"pvidenceournal," and by a julie man from "e washington examiner." ey are very good, and able people in their field of endeavor, politics in washington. this coming forum is goingo be a fficult time for president barack obama. how is he goingo deal with it? will he stand on the ramparts? >> the admintration stays in caaign mode at all time. the variable i oma. he changes. somemes he gives perspecti, other times hcomes out hard- charging. introspective. i think we will see the hard-
chging obama thifall. he has to do a lot of things. he can not afford to take a passive role. >> we might as well proceefrom there abouthe issues. th is not the only challee. justice is unforgiving as the domestic runs. he has got iraq, afghanistan, across a situation, he potentiay has iran. there is alight move and settlemes. i know i spent a faiamount of time othe west bank. they are ver dedicated. it is difficult to argue bause theyay this land wasiven to
us at 2000 years ago, and it is diffict to deal with somody who is chatting with them when you are chatting with your local advisers. ich one of these things will you have the most luck wit questionarks -- mostuck with? >> i do not think that lucks the fir word that comes to mind. for what he will do is what he has to do. the first agenda isor congress, seei what they have say. we're doi perhaps n as well as we thought.
they have added the troops. not quite amany as they wanted. he is some danger on the le, but i think democrats unrstand that they need to get behind the president, so they will slide through. whether he is going t hon our request for re tops, we do not know. >> interesting o that plate is pakistan. leastn the short term, b i would give t administration me credit for what is under the radar. just a few months o we were looking at the taliban 50 miles from islamabad, but nhe joint chfs really have served emselves wel, and tha situation has improved significantly. you're seeinthe deaths oa
lot of the talan. al qaeda may have reded as a force. the taliban, the problem in afghanistan, was not necessarily our objectiven the first place. now we havmission creep, which will be complicated. >> as they grow onur food supply in afghanistan. i worked managing an extrem concept. american trucks, america soldiers. they were complaining th there was not enough. i had se clout inashington, and they were all cooki together. we were so good to them. no good deed should be unpunish, and that is very disturbing.
al qaeda is in piticalode, and it ivery noticeable. he can eventually win politically. u can an ist. or you n retrieved -- retreat. that is what happenedt the end ofhe empir talks all over the world. when it is religious, setimes you just sal away. what do you think of the rest of the trbles? ere is noh korea and south korea, a jap worried sick abt it. is there anything we ll do the? are we willingo sit down? >> it seem like china is
gettg down withe six party talks. buwe have not seen any prress. >> i wish china were less duplicitou >> they seemed more alarmed than previouslyith north korean advances. i know that northrea was cheered by theositionhey were taking, and more optimistic. and maybe they are aittle money on foreign policy. >> i fd it extraordinary that south korea has been so disturbed. they do nothink that north korea will drop the bomb on them.
and there's a qstion -- ceainly in the right wing in this cntry, in the extreme right, you have a push that israel shoultake out. >> israel has taken states -- steps an the past, a the united nations has been happy th did that. and in syria, they arep to noood. >> israel does have a tendey to keep things in check in aay that perhaps the united states thg doesot have e power to do. >> thisill involve us in a way
that others did't. ying roc, with basic contr, it wl be regarded as an american bomb thathits, no matter who isn the airplane. anthey presumably imagine some sortf war for immediately, moving back into iraq and claiming it. itould be very hard for is admistration. >> it seemsike y're playing ainst time. we have seen significant up people in this situation at has not sortedtself out. whatill that mean? wi they revert to the same policies? you said it would be a change of heart. if there is not, though, it is almost impossible conceive of israel not doing somethi within some time frame in front
of us. the histy shows. >> 40% is redined. on t world marker, about 2 million barrels a daof oil. the econy is in shocking shape. and the iranians are not a third world people. ey are in shocking sp -- shape. their business acumen is excellent. this will be annormous thing. i would ke to remind you th you're listening to "wte house chronicle" in wasngton. i am joine with julie mason, brian rey, and johulligan
of "throvidence journal the dominant newspaper in rhe island. >> all i know is that is solvts today. >> i thoug you we goingo see the dominant nspaper in new enand. >>we might as well have a talk. you're talking about all of these ents, the activit covering theews outside of th country, to have a suitable corresndent. you look at in,srael -- is very eensive. we're seeing an enormous amount
ofommentary. how is "u.s. news anworld port,"in a multimedia state, aling with these things? >> the busess is shattered. ihink you're going to see jor media companies going out of business, conlidating. things will still be tough because the clima is not improving for medi what we have done is retrenched, pulled back for some things, and foreign rrespondents are pensive and you need ways to find the information. we publish lot moronline. we have a digital publition, a digital magazine. thhub of our world is our website, whi has 8 million to 10 milli visitors a month.
tracked that. as a great way of cmunicating with pple on a number of levels. there e so many different thgs you can do. there is future there, but the model will haveo sort itself out of the next couple of years. >> youradio is doinguite well is it partly religious? >> yes, there are som influences, anit is structured in a way that therre nonreligus segments of the new cast, but there are segments offer to religious sections. >> you haveomebody in the
white house. do you have sebody in e house of represeatives? >> yes. >>hat is pretty good for a non-naonal radio network. >> well, i will say thathe state of urnalism has always been difficult. it has always been aifficult business we've always had economic concns. the job markets havelways been tight. with the economybeg what it is, everyone feeli it. is not just bad for us, it is bad for everybo. >> there are few huge salaries. >> yes, there ar people could make a lot of money. >> [inaudible] i was paid last week. >> did it clear?
[laughter] >> one thing that will be interestg in the sorting o of prite talks is if newspapers and magazines continue to retrench, what happens to the prosion of these reports? is very expensive to have, even in a small place, 100 peopleathering news and editing it. ffington post does not have ws gatherers. where is the record rn tcome from -- where ishe report going to come fro >> it has bn on leas likehe dogs of war. d there are opinions nonstop, pecially politically. based on reporting bsomeone else.
and as it rol down -- >> the lines are so blurry doubt. as reporters and joualists, everyoneas an opinionand the opinion is cheap. >> and now you tell us we are biased, that we have always h that. and now obama is not getting such good press. >> that was always a canard, at the press was loving obama. i think the press likes the idea of a black democrat being president of ameri, butn a personal level i have seen nothinut pointed cerage from the press corps.
ok at these network guys who cove him, an they pull no punches. th are as aggssive as ca be. but people see punditsnd commentators on cable about how ch they love to see oba. but callerto whole thing because in a sense that cannot e the difference between the chicago tribune's white house reporternd cis matthew >> where will we be in five years? anybody can guess? [laughter] if we becomehe newsmakers, this country's in more ouble than we thk. >> i do not know a lot of reports willing to bet the mogage that they will be around in five years. the collapse haseen so credible. >> hav my frids over the age of 40 are out of wor many will not work in
journalism again. they may work in some vaguely relate plic relations or mething like that. t even that- i was a news publisheror 43 years, d even that iin trouble. there another problem, and at is what congress itself there is coverage different than it used be. we wait now for national reporters to cover it, and you do not knowhat is going on. >> thais a he issue. reporters did nohave any idea what is going on. they hav press releases, but it is filtered and a very diffent way than it wa covering the local commercial delegation was onef the hallmarks of a good regional newspaper, and that has
diminished in many, man plas. and wewill see what e consequences are. we have anlection coming up next year. how will that be covered? all of these isss we talk aboutpossibly end up coming into congress. >> there's a sma number of reporters on the campaign. i imagine it will be surprisin in aimilar way. >> it can be $40,000 aonth to cor a campaign. >> i wanted to clear your mind, and tell me wh the big idea is ing to be. what big an enormous thing. lie has an idea,ut i doot want that one. [lauger] >> this is kind of a moderate idea. it is not a really big idea. and think we will seere making omichelle obama next
ar. i think she s been chafingt pyrre she came up with. obam was goingo be the thing th did everything, and now he wants to play golf and not do much and now she wants to d policy. i think you'll s her busting out the mother mode and becoming a more active first lady. >> interesting. >> i am going to salhe big idea in th media for my oldest child, a sometime college journalts who aspires to found agazine that is cool. it is going to have things that interest him. sports cerage,usical coverage, d he not sure whatlse, but he will confer with his friends aboutt. say it only partly tongue-in- cheek. the amalgamations that web- orientedoung peoe can come with arelmost unlimit,
and it might bthat there is a future f cerin organs to proliferate on a small scale. that is interesting. >> is a hard e. [ughter] >> the area at fascinates me energy, the cost to us on the one hanand t possibility of me big changes, sol energy, w discoveries. it really affects ople's lives. we are on th verge of big breakthrough. >> it is queionable wheer there will hav to be a nuclear power plants. the big idea is this religion about the chicago school of economics without, wait a minute, maybehe market the way is laid out by chicago economis is not quite that way, because in all of their
alysis, ty miss the fragility of the ecomic system. they assume that to be enormously resourceful, and therefore if that s resource for, th wou putodels and to fre enterpris to marker but when the system itself collapsed, some of them have been sneaking out. >> i guess i would dispute a litt bit. do not think it was economic system. it was the financial system. that is where greenspan admitd that the cacity for greed on wall strt so exceeded what he was en wilng to contplate. when you look at those guys, lehmanrothers, i spent a lot of the summer reading the deconstruction, anit was fascinating. goman sachs is selling these bonds to their customers at the same te they are shortinand from their ownccount. they know it i terrible stuff, and they are selling it.
hman brothers knew how badff the war years befo this hit. >> wt is your thoughtabut the big idea? ere's the b revisionism during all of this >> as we go back to financial issues, i would say that trust is gone as much as we hate to talk about gulatory oversight and things of that nature, the big idea is at people are going to sudden embrace the fact that they do need a watchdo theyo need a guard dog at the gate, and they areot goingo any longer say, well, we trusted our financial advisers, we thought they were working in our best interest. we do t think anye is working in our best interest anymore. >> i agree with that. we should realize a we peer in the future that what determin the future is nothing like what we anticipated how l of these things,
remember, theamous thing tt the english prime minister sd out what worries him, he said "events, dear boy, events. " [laughter] thank you so much for cing along,nd we will see you next week. til then, keep the ideas comingand visit us that at whchronicle.com. cheers. >> "white house chronicle" is produced i collaboration wh whut. from washiton, dc, this has been "whe house chronicle," a